Nikon N8008 / F-801 – Camera Review

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Shooting classic cameras often brings compromise. Sometimes your camera lacks auto-focus, other times it’s got no light meter, or maybe your camera can’t auto-expose. We love old cameras, but occasionally the continual compromise makes us pine for a camera that’s, if not mindlessly automatic, at least a little less demanding.

So it can be refreshing when we get our hands on a camera that proffers the joys of a classic camera (involvement in the process, thrill of anticipation, sense of timelessness) with some added creature comforts.

The Nikon N8008 (called the F801 in certain markets) is just such a camera. This classic 35mm film camera is in practice one of the more modern machines we’ve tested. It gives us everything we love about shooting film while allowing us to relax and shoot in a way that’s totally natural to those of us who grew up shooting plastic-fantastic DSLRs. Like some of the best products ever made, the N8008 is excellent at nothing, but good at everything.

To find out if the N8008 could be your perfect film SLR, read on.

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The N8008/F-801 was developed in the late 1980s and released in 1988. During this period it was Nikon’s top-of-the-line 35mm SLR camera for photo enthusiasts, nestling just under the professional-grade F4 in the Nikon lineup. It was made to last, had outstanding specs, and positioned Nikon to challenge Canon in the arena of autofocus SLR cameras (this being Nikon’s second, and best AF SLR).

Strong construction has given the N8008/F-801 a reputation for longevity and durability. Though it’s heavily reliant on electronics and consists of an astounding number of parts, the camera has proven itself a reliable workhorse, and we’ve every reason to believe this now 20-something-year-old camera will still be firing away long into the future.

While this reliability is great, it comes with a price. The metal construction of the main body means that this camera is pretty damn heavy. At close to 700g, it’s nearly as heavy as the Nikon D810 full-frame DSLR. Add the required four AA batteries and things become wrist-achingly dense. But we’ll take a heavy, long-lived machine over a broken lightweight any day of the week, so if hefty cameras bother you it’s time to hit the gym.

Aesthetically the N8008 is pretty boring. Its looks aren’t especially offensive, it’s just that they’re not especially appealing either. There’s nothing about the camera’s physical attributes to elevate it over its more beautiful predecessors (the gorgeous FE series, for example), but in the same breath there’s nothing here to repulse the average onlooker.

Yes, it’s boring, and a bit homely. Is this something over which to find fault in the camera? We’re not so sure. After all, for the period in which it was made the N8008 is quite ordinary looking. We think its homeliness stems more from the existence of a distinct division upon the timeline of classic cameras, with incredible designs occupying the space before this divide and classless, uninspired designs populating the period after. It just happens that the N8008 released firmly in the era of the latter. With its entirely plastic exterior, bloated proportions, and spattering of spongey buttons, this camera looks like an unfortunate, overstayed relic from an era of disposable appliances.

But pay attention to our choice of words. Though it may look like an overstayed relic, it certainly doesn’t act that way. In use the N8008 is pretty exceptional. It’s a feature-dense camera, well-engineered, and thoroughly modern in its execution. And while it can at times feel like a modern DSLR, it still maintains the mechanical qualities that are a requisite for our falling in love with any vintage camera.

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Its buttons, switches, and levers, while feeling a bit tacky, are all positioned perfectly for unencumbered operation. Wrapping one’s hands around the camera feels entirely natural, with only a few small irritants, such as the placement of the control wheel being too decentralized and the grip being slightly bulbous. Still, we should emphasize that these are very small issues that won’t present the same for every shooter. Those with larger mitts may feel it fits perfectly in the hand.

With one look at the spec sheet it’s clear this thing is a seriously capable camera for serious shooters. It’s capable of shooting in every one of the now-standard shooting modes (PASM), offers wide-ranging creative controls as well as some rather interesting special features, and allows access to Nikon’s incredible range of Nikkor lenses.

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But the spec-sheet doesn’t tell the whole story. Sure, it’s great to say a camera has a handful of auto-exposure modes, perfectly acceptable auto-focus abilities, and loads of in-demand bells and whistles, but we’re never convinced until we take it out into the field. Quite happily, the N8008 didn’t disappoint.

Its autofocus system (switchable to manual focus as well) operates extremely well. While certainly a bit slow compared to the cameras of today’s market, it’s still fast enough to get the job done in most situations. It uses what Nikon calls their “Advanced AM200” module, whatever that means. They can call it whatever they like, but the takeaway is that the AF here is of the phase-detection variety. Knowing this, we expected to run into the typical phase-detection foibles, such as hunting and front- and back-focusing. Imagine our surprise, then, when the AF system proved to be nearly unflappable.

For our review we shot the N8008s, which is an updated version of the N8008 with improved autofocus capabilities. On a beautiful, sunny day at Boston’s waterfront we had exactly zero instances of hunting, front-focus, or back-focus. Lighting was excellent, so we weren’t too surprised by the system’s abilities, but later in the evening amidst the subdued-lighting of a small, Italian restaurant, focus was still not much of an issue. Though there were a few instances of hunting over candlelight, focus was still exceptionally accurate.

Granted, we were shooting a 50mm F/1.8 Nikkor. Fast focus will naturally be more of a struggle with something like a zoom-Nikkor or portrait lens, but we can’t imagine many shooters will hate the N8008s’ focus capabilities.

Since it’s been mentioned in nearly every discussion about this camera, we should also mention that as far as AF motors go the N8008’s is a bit loud. If that’s a serious concern, be so advised. We’re not really sure it’s a huge liability, but we know people seem to get pretty upset over noises coming from their cameras. It won’t be obvious on a busy city street, it won’t startle a grazing deer, and it won’t ruin your candid photography, but yes, it’s a pretty loud camera.

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Metering is virtually flawless on any setting, these consisting of average matrix metering and center-weighted metering (75 / 25%), with center-weighted metering in particular yielding impeccable results every time. Shooting in either metering mode, as well as the upgraded N8008s’ added spot-metering, our test film developed without a single under- or over-exposed shot in even the trickiest lighting situations.

Shooting in aperture-priority mode is simplicity itself. Simply rotate the aperture ring on the lens and the camera selects the appropriate shutter speed. Shutter priority is similarly effortless. Just set the shutter speed via the rotating thumbwheel on the top plate and the camera selects the appropriate aperture, and with a shutter capable of exposures from 30 seconds to 1/8000th of a second there’s no limit on the photographer’s exposures.

But the camera’s strengths don’t end with the fundamental core of AF, shooting modes, and metering. It also offers a wide range of secondary controls that are hard to top in the world of vintage cameras.

Exposure compensation is available in 1/3 stop increments up to a rather strong +/- 5 EV, pretty excellent for those who love the rapidity of exposure compensation. Depth-of-field preview is available via a well-positioned button aside the lens mount. There’s available exposure lock, autofocus lock, 3.2 FPS continuous shooting, multiple exposure shooting of up to nine exposures in a single frame, automatic film-loading and rewind, and the list goes on, and on.

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Mirroring the nearly unlimited speeds of the shutter, the rest of the camera’s features are similarly accommodating to the shooter used to modern machines. And it’s this unlimited potential that’s the camera’s greatest strength. Switching between shooting modes, using exposure compensation and AE-lock for backlit subjects, choosing AF or MF modes, etc., it’s easy to see that the N8008 is just a step above the typical vintage machine.

For those of us who cut our teeth shooting DSLRs, it’s hard to think of a more comfortable film camera. Select the desired shooting mode, spin a thumbwheel, depress a few plasticky buttons, and listen to that glorious mirror flapping up and down as images are made with natural ease.

Familiarity with the machine is crucial to the photographic process, so if you’re a DSLR veteran whose primary goal is making excellent images, the N8008 is worthy of serious consideration.

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The included focusing screen is Nikon’s standard Type B screen. This is the perfect general photography screen and offers unobstructed viewing and easy focusing over the entire frame. The matte/Fresnel surface does well-enough when manual focusing, but for those who want something different it’s possible to remove the Type B and substitute it with Nikon’s Type E, which features compositional assistance grids.

It doesn’t much matter which focusing screen you choose. Either way, when you look through the viewfinder you’re sure to fall in love with the massive, well-lit VF. It provides the full range of crucial information so often lacking in vintage camera viewfinders, allowing the photographer to know with certainty what’s happening with every exposure.

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A backlit LCD display shows focus indication, exposure mode, shutter speed, aperture, exposure compensation, flash indicator light, etc. This wealth of information and instant updates allow for the kind of streamlined shooting that can often be the difference between making an amazing image and missing a shot altogether. Without taking one’s eye from the viewfinder it’s possible to understand and adjust any setting on the camera in mere moments.

In the end, the N8008/F-801 is a classic camera with a thoroughly modern ethos. It’s old enough to charm us with its aging character, modern enough to be completely usable by any shooter and in any situation. It’s from one of the best brands in photography and compatible with one of the best lens lineups in the world. It’s a camera that can do everything you’ll ever ask of it, and it’ll keep on firing for decades.

While it’s not the prettiest camera, nor the fastest, nor the lightest, nor the most alluring, it’s still an exceptional camera. It’s the best at nothing, but great at everything. It’s the practical all-rounder that Nikon intended it to be, and it just works. What more could you need?

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  • Reply
    June 8, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    Well written! I’ve always wondered about these hybrids that clash classic and modern into a smorgasbord of photography fun. You might have just tipped the scales in their favor for me.

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      June 8, 2015 at 4:43 pm

      Thanks for the kind words! We’ll keep an eye on your Instagram for newly adopted Nikons.

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      Vasko Bozinovski
      May 2, 2016 at 4:39 am

      My dad’s got one of these, and I’m now running my up and coming photography business presiding with the Sony range of camera’s for my preferred choice, but in old school SLR, these units are amazing and I’ve got them stored in glass cabinets to show their beauty.

      The Nikon to Sony E mount adaptor does wonders as I find it hard to beat the Optics in these original NIKKOR lenses from the 80s.

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    August 28, 2015 at 1:02 am

    Another nice review of another interesting camera. Would be interested in your opinions about the Nikon F4 and F4S and Nikon F3.

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      August 28, 2015 at 1:07 am

      Thanks for the kind words. We’ve got our eyes on the F3 for the next “professional” Nikon. Stay tuned!

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    October 11, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    Been using an F801-S and completely agree – it’s pretty awesome. I don’t think it’s all that boring to look at either. Eye of the beholder I guess, I like that 80s style.

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      October 11, 2015 at 6:21 pm

      That’s great! It’s a worthy machine for sure. Happy shooting! 🙂

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    Geezer G
    January 11, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    My introduction to the Nikon N8008s was a happy accident. I won a Canon sales contest back when I was managing a camera store in Atlanta and the prize was an EOS 1 with a 50/1.4 lens. I got excited over the camera and immediately started selling off Nikon equipment to get more goodies for the EOS and in no time had added a 28/2.8, a 28-105 and a 430EZ flash. A Halloween party was coming up and I was anxious to take photos of the kids with my new toys.

    Just before the party, though, a customer brought in his N8008s with a 50/1.4 lens for us to sell for him. He hadn’t used it in quite a while, so I decided to also take it to the party along with my daughter’s SB-15 flash and run a test roll of film through the camera to make sure everything was working properly. Long story short, even with the focus assist on the 430EZ, the Canon had trouble focusing in low light and I was missing shots while the camera “hunted”. Pissed off, I reached for the Nikon and even with an incorrect flash, I never missed another shot.

    When I told our Canon rep about my experience, he told me that the low light focusing was a known problem, but that Canon was “working on it”. The next day, I bought the Nikon, the EOS went into the used equipment case and I started replacing the Nikons and Nikkors I had sold. I have an F4s and an F5, but I am more likely to grab either the N8008s or the F801s I bought later than I am either one of those big, heavy cameras. They are noisy and not as fast as the F5, but they are reliable and most importantly, get the job done.

    Thanks for another excellent review, James!

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    March 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    I enjoyed reading this – it is a well written review. I still have – and use very occasionally – an F801 so it was nice to see it getting some love!

    I would say that the single biggest issue – which you hit upon – is the noise. You were kind – it is very noisy at times! However, it works well after more than 20 years and I am pleased I still have one. Cheers 🙂

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      March 2, 2016 at 12:51 pm

      Thanks for the kind words! I actually saw someone using one of these last time I was out on the street! Always good to see them out in the wild and I’m happy you’re enjoying yours. Thanks again.

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    June 13, 2016 at 8:52 am

    This is the camera I used up until my family got a digital camera when I was 14. They bought this Nikon when I was born, so I basically grew up with it, but I never went beyond the automatic program. In my defence, at least I wasn’t as ignorant as the rest of my family – they NEVER realised you could zoom by turning the lense until I told them when I was, like, 10. But I’d like to expand my knowledge of this camera now, so I’m hunting the internet for information – and I found your lovely site. Thanks for this write-up.

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      June 13, 2016 at 9:55 pm

      Thanks for the kind words! I always enjoy hearing about camera memories. 🙂

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    September 11, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    I was debating to purchase an Nikon N8008s or a Leica M6. Leica was at least twice as much and not even close with the features of the Nikon. I purchased the N8008s. Still works great. With lenses, flash, camera bag, tripod, data back I spent about $2000.00 US. However, eventually I stopped using because was just too heavy and bulky. Today, my setup is worth less than $150US.

    Last year I purchased a Leica M7. It is the best camera I have ever owned and regret it that I had bought this Nikon. M7 is more functional less weight with superb lens quality. M6 or today’s MP do not have the AE feature but are very good and similar cameras in operation with the M7. If I had purchased the M6, I would have continuously used my film camera through out the years. Possibly loose very little money and keep using for more years.

    Weight, essential functionality and quality are unsurpassed features. Other, features are more likely useless or just marketing material that you might never ever use.

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      James - Founder/Editor
      September 11, 2016 at 8:06 pm

      Interesting perspective. As someone who purchased the Nikon when it was new, you’ve seen a depreciation that perhaps the Leicas have not seen. Then again, for someone buying today the Nikon is a fiscal deal that can’t be touched by Leica. It’s all timing and perspective. Thanks for sharing yours.

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    October 5, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    I just received my N8008 in the mail and I really love it so far. The first time it autofocused the 50mm f/1.8D it literally startled me. Probably not going to be shooting any wildlife with this beast.

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